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Skorsson — Mon, 06 Apr 2009 19:06:32 -0000

I entirely agree with you, especially being the rare Nid player that loves Biovores (or at least used to love them in 3rd)

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Paul — Sun, 05 Apr 2009 08:28:46 -0000

Interesting concept although I wait to see it working before I lavish it with love and praise.

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markbkansas — Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:36:02 -0000

Compare the bastion in the rule book with the bastion in Apocalypse Reload battle report. You will see that the bastion is a plastic kit with removable levels.

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Pim — Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:42:25 -0000

Hi.

Just read this post about planetstrike. I also checked the examples of supposed new buildings. (Bastion, AA Turret, Barricades). When looking through the book i also noticed a landingpad (pg. 239, research station). This might be scratchbuild, but seems very much of an incident, if you consider the mentioned kit-release.

Grt. Pim

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Billy Hsu — Fri, 27 Mar 2009 23:49:10 -0000

but of course, the plastic thunderhawk is cool and all.

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billy hsu — Fri, 27 Mar 2009 23:48:57 -0000

A plastic Thunderhawk, it would be awesome, but the cost? if a baneblad is 100 wahts the thunderhawk gonna be? And forgeworld, with all these plastic models coming out, whats forgeworld gonna do, lose business? i know they're part of GW, but still whats the point of forgeworld then?

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rider — Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:12:38 -0000

just checked the pics in the rule book, looks to me like that terrain is scracthbuilt

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Grekyll — Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:43:16 -0000

He got his information from the head of production.

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Kroot Shaper — Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:26:11 -0000

So you go about saying how he has a horrible KP list, and how he only won because he had good comp and paint scores?

Lucky (in your eyes) or not, he still won. I'm sure it has nothing to do with your lack of talent using Tau:

SinSynn

"a Tau player. Which I WAS until a month or so ago. I've gotten sick of getting stomped out since the 'run rule' and new focus on CC has made it impossible to compete for the Tau"

Ahh the internet. Where the lost and lonely whine for attention.

Sorry you're not as good as someone else. Maybe try a new game?

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TSINI — Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:13:16 -0000

i'd suggest checking out other miniature companies for non race specific scenery.

www.armorcast.com are still going and they make crystal formations etc and some interesting scenery.

also check out these guys at http://www.oldcrowmodels.co... in particular the links to Ainsty Products. although its normally hi-tech sci-fi stuff that you find, with a bit of modification/burying into the ground / filling with caved in areas etc you can make some interesting areas of the 41st millenium that arent a common sight

i'm personally quite lazy with terrain and any company that gives me a head start is a god-send :D

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TSINI — Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:11:46 -0000

Giggedy!

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Matt — Mon, 23 Mar 2009 08:19:48 -0000

I know one of the guys that is working on the prototype for a plastic Thunderhawk, and his opinion of the people in the design studio is that they are clowns, and not particularly funny one either.

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Asymmetrical Xeno — Mon, 23 Mar 2009 00:49:52 -0000

Personally id like to see some generic alien world terrain. I mean I often see that people focus on the war/battle elements of the terrain, but not the actual planets themselves - id like to see strange alien tree's, crystal formations and other otherworldly things, surely not every planet in the galaxy is going to have earth-like type terrain ? this is the kind of terrain that could be used for anyone, or even converted to be race-specific (crystal formations painted green = necron ect).

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Big J — Sun, 22 Mar 2009 23:27:43 -0000

While I agree that 5th could use some fixes and especially codex specific clarifications, Apoc is EXTREMELY popular where I play, and it's pretty much the only way we play now. We've got a 15,000 point game coming up in May. I'd rather see whole new expansions than an occasional 5 page PDF on new scenarios on their site.

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SinSynn — Sun, 22 Mar 2009 23:23:19 -0000

yes. yes he did. very lucky.
I know the list (6 d-fish, hammerheads list), and the story. Let's not lose sight of the fact he won based on Painting and comp. score. Also, scenarios are played at tournaments, not your basic missions that are rolled up, like a pickup game played at your local GW store. That army list he ran gives up 3 KP a transport, so that's 18 KP just with his troop choices! 2 gundrones- 1 KP, Transport- 1 KP, 6 firewarriors- 1 KP.
I know everyone wants to justify the current unbalanced state of 40k, or act like the game is fine, but I stand by my original claim that 5th Ed. is a mess. Are myself and AhrimanLord the only ones that see it. Ork players are naturally defensive, claiming left and right that they're codex is fair and balanced, but really now, look at the top 25 armies at ANY GT in the last year and try again. It usually reads Orks, Orks Orks, Chaos(the double lash list), Orks, Orks, Chaos, etc. You know it does, so why try to act differently? I'm not mad at people who are suddenly Ork players, trying to justify their switch with annoying logic (yeah, 1 Tau player in like forever has the luckiest day of his life- that's proof that the Tau are competetive), I'm mad at GW for 1st creating this mess, then denying it exists, then not only not doing anything to change it, but piling on the expansions without a nod to the 'lower tier' armies.
what about Inquisition players-both flavors, what about the Necrons, who got nerfed in 5th? Where's the love for the Eldar players, dark and regular? How about fixing the Biovore rules for the rare 'Nid player who loves them?
Nah, let's release a new expansion that no one will play. All those Cities of Death books look lonely on the shelves.

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Big J — Sun, 22 Mar 2009 23:21:20 -0000

Pretty sure he meant "Don't make a profit."

Pretty sure you knew that too.

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Big J — Sun, 22 Mar 2009 23:18:30 -0000

Right, just Vulkan, Ironclads and Craters. What make those more Planet Strike than storm troopers?

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OXRS — Sun, 22 Mar 2009 23:09:14 -0000

Yeah, you obviously don't know as much about the model making business as you think you do. You're way off base with that "information" about plastic moulds. Pewter moulds are dirt cheap, around $5000, and break down over time. Plastic moulds are really expensive, much easier to design finer detail for using computers, and last, for all intents and purposes, forever. Near&Far is a little off on the price, too. In the last year they've come down in price drastically and manufacturing a mould for something like the Thunderhawk would cost them around $100,000 to $150,000. After that, though, the manufacturing cost of the actual product would be almost negligible. They would sell a LOT more than Forge World does. Forge World is a niche section of the Niche market that GW occupies. What makes more profit than high margins? Higher volume.

The bottom line is that resin is expensive for them to continue with. It warps a lot more than plastic and they lose money with every replacement they make (which happens more often than most people think) and once they invest in the plastic kits, all they're doing is raking in the money. Replacements from damaged parts wouldn't even scratch their bottom line. Why do you think they're so ready to send out entire replacement Baneblade kits if even one part is damaged? Plastic is cheap. Each kit costs them a few dollars in materials.

You seem to be thinking in "guy in a basement" manufacturing terms, in which $5000 is prohibitively expensive. GW's budget for creating new lines is more than most of their customers make in 10 years, on the low end.

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Mrrshann618 — Sun, 22 Mar 2009 21:01:21 -0000

Oh well, another Plastic TH rumor flying.
Now if it were the Tau Orca, that would be Something!!!
Though I have to agree that a plastic TH kit would sell like mad. Heck I'd probilly buy two. Teachnically acording to the Heresy fluff CSM would get TH's in limited numbers also.

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Chaosgerbil — Sun, 22 Mar 2009 20:30:15 -0000

Actually the Orks (and probably the Tyranids) are more numerous than the Imperium.

I agree though that making Ork terrain isn't too hard, but I would love to see some official xenos terrain sets other than a few cool but expensive barricades.

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zealot — Sun, 22 Mar 2009 20:00:10 -0000

vulkan ? huh ?

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BeastOfShadow — Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:52:02 -0000

as an intresting fact he played six hoard armies with 2 hammerheads and a skyray. He is a good player though and is finals list was nasty.

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Kroot Shaper — Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:44:42 -0000

I guess the guy who won the UK GT with Tau got lucky then eh?

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klemanius — Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:18:58 -0000

no I meant as in boarding actions and such

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BeastOfShadow — Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:10:46 -0000

Tau, Eldar and Nids were probably the chessiest armies in 4th. The ork range needed a whole revamp and got it. The marines didn't because they get a codex per edition. There are also alot of ork player who did what your doing with your tau are now coming out of the woodwork again.