Bell of Lost Souls - Latest Comments in 40K EDITORIAL: Five Precepts of 40K

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imagudspellr — Sun, 28 Mar 2010 23:10:49 -0000

Well... those players aren't really focusing on the true purpose of "knowing the odds". Odds are just supposed to give you an idea of what is most likely to happen to help assist your decision making process (e.g. Why take a Lascannon when an Assault Cannon can do the job better?). The key here being that this will not tell you the future... it will only allow you to make the best decision.

Ej, SinSynn, and Myu have all shown how it is possible for crap to happen... and in large amounts too (however unlikely it is to happen based on the odds). The other thing that should be considered is that most people aren't playing with casino quality dice... which causes certain numbers to be rolled more often... luck aside.

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Pete Mancini — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 22:39:10 -0000

"Look, Your Worshipfulness, let's get one thing straight. I take orders from just one person: me."

Command and control - if you have to tell someone you are in control it usually means you aren't. Make the enemy react to YOU - just because you won the initiative die roll doesn't mean you are acting as if you had the initiative.

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onFyre — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 11:23:58 -0000

One of my friends is convinced that my Dark Reapers will be able to damage his nice pointy Predator by so much as looking at it. At first I tried to explain how their guns work, but now I'm just happy to leave those guys in the middle as a massive deterrent.

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coal — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:52:17 -0000

Please don't put up a picture of this idiot woman again... Thanks.

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Gotthammer — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 00:38:11 -0000

"The easy way is always mined" - could be a weakness, but be prepared for a trap.

"If it's stupid and it works, it isn't stupid"

"Make it too hard for them to get in, and you can't get out" - especially suitable with Planetstrike - making a great fortress / defensive position is useless when you are essentially imobilised by all your own defences. Against some set ups an attacker in Planetstike may do well to bring a few of his own artillery pieces to shell the tightly packed ranks of infantry who can't escape due to the rings of walls and barricades.

In regular 40k don't concentrate so much on defending your own position that you have no time to reach out to damage enemy units / capture objectives.

"Incoming fire has right of way" - don't just check your own sight lines, check your oponents as well.

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Gotthammer — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 00:30:03 -0000

I always liked "The easy things are always simple, and the simple things are always hard."

Taking an objective? Plant a squad on it.

Planting a squad on the other side of the board through the entire enemy army - that's a bit trickier.

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Dr Henry Killinger — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:31:18 -0000

"If at first you don't succeed, you fail." - GLaDOS

If something didn't work the first time, don't expect it to work the second. Be flexible, change tactics, try something new.

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Dr Henry Killinger — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:16:04 -0000

A similar line was used in Renegades in the Heroes of the Space Marines compilation.

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Fatherazhara — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 07:30:23 -0000

Excelent idea clausewitz is very applicable for 40k, good man for using mushahsi, i personally think that the book of five rings is an brilliant book for tabletop gaming

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Myu — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 07:07:13 -0000

Holy S-. SIX? Still, I do have 6 dreds, so I guess I can't really fault him to have 6 vindicators... I do plan to have 3 myself eventually so I can field a line-breaker squadron.

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flight commander — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 05:02:36 -0000

my friend is saying that he is going to have six vindicators in planetstrike
Asinus asinorum in saecula saeculorum - He was the biggest donkey in history.
Just like that one

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Rift Knight — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 00:58:21 -0000

"You can get more of what you want with a kind word and gun than you can with a kind word." Al Capon

No strategy, just a cool quote.

Rift Knight

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Rift Knight — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 00:09:15 -0000

"Terribly sorry old chap but we don't have the facilities to take you all prisoner right now, was there anything else." British Junior Officer to german messanger after he said he wanted to discuss terms of surrender at Arnham Bridge.

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SinSynn — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 23:43:24 -0000

*sigh*
I've been meaning to tell you about the 'dad' thing...
it's just that... the timing has never seemed right, y'know?
but since you bought it up.....son, I just want you to understand......
Your mother is a very....loving person, y'see....and, well, we were drinking....y'know how it is.......
but just think- BoLS just wouldn't be the same unless that happened, so something that would come to mean so much came from that night.
*ruffling your hair*
Now waddaya say we go get some ice cream, son?
:)

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SinSynn — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 23:33:32 -0000

didn't Knute Rockne say 'the best defense' line?
famous college football coach.

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Myu — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 23:29:52 -0000

I agree totally. I would also add "Don't fight a battle if you don't gain anything by winning OR losing".

Losing once or twice can be a valuable experience against a new army. Look at the D-Day landings, if the Allies hadn't fought that one other disastrous battle, they wouldn't know what NOT to do. And the world might be a very different place now.

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Myu — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 23:25:25 -0000

Absurdly, I'm suddenly inspired to get 3 vindicators, just to say I've done that.

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Myu — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 23:21:45 -0000

Gaining players is always good ^_^

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Myu — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 23:18:08 -0000

Me too. Those 1's and 2's come up 50% of the time, I swear!

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Myu — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 23:15:41 -0000

No no no, you misunderstand. I'm not a Deceiver I'm... er... a Space Marine, yeah, that's it. A Space Marine.

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BuFFo — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 22:53:06 -0000

Her strategy for every game is a single goal of "exploit mistakes". The question is "what is your strategy" and she gave an answer.

Its a strategy, but thanks for the attempt at a vocabulary lesson dad.

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Mike X (Official) — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:45:50 -0000

“Know thine enemy better than one knows thyself.” - Sun Tzu

"Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer." - Sun Tzu

"The best offense is a good defense." - Anonymous

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Mark Temple — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:30:20 -0000

i prefer the version from Ringo's 'When theDevil Dances"
"He who laughs last, thinks fastest"
because he if didn't think fast, he'd be dead and unable to laugh at all.

the moral of that one is simple. be ready to adapt your plan to meet the circumstances. sticking to a plan when it's gone to heck will only result in a loss.

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SinSynn — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:23:07 -0000

I WISH I could roll 4's!
On the vehicle damage table, a 4 is 'vehicle destroyed' when I add the +1 for using an AP1 weapon(Tau railgun).
Since I can't roll higher than a 2 when it counts, however.......

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SinSynn — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:14:38 -0000

Actually, my contrarian friend, it's a tactic.
I look at it this way-
A 'Strategy' is like a 'plan'- it's your overall path to victory.
'Tactics' are the 'tricks' you use along the way....to victory ;)
I've believed in this saying for a long time as a Tau player- we just can't force stuff, or power our way to objectives. We aren't tough enough. Killing exposed, unsupported units. Long Railgun shots on Marker-Lit targets. My opponent over extending himself in reaction/retaliation.
PATIENCE is my strategy, as was Chris Everetts'. As long as I'm patient, and not trying to force something to happen, an opening may occur where I can pull off a tactic, which (hopefully) will lead to another opening, which (hopefully) will lead to.....
you get the idea.