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Re: 40K NEWS: Space Wolves Latest Morsels

Chaosgerbil — Mon, 14 Sep 2009 23:22:45 -0000

You're calling me a weak cupcake for making that point? Ok sugar muffin, I'll dry my tears with a fur pelt.

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Millenium_King — Mon, 14 Sep 2009 13:01:36 -0000

Long Fang Squad:

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Colossus Mortar Blast:

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What line of sight?

Please people, toughen up. A devastator squad is NOT invincible.

Re: 40K NEWS: Space Wolves Latest Morsels

Millenium_King — Mon, 14 Sep 2009 12:58:17 -0000

Puh-leaze. Everything gets cover saves and everything can miss.

SW armies are small: 50 guys in 2000pts will have trouble giving each
other cover saves. And if you really have a problem, take a Colossus or
three.

T4 with 3+ save dies to SO MUCH. This list is no worse than Chaos
Marines.

Honestly, all this "waaaaaah! They're unstoppable and unfair!" whining
is pathetic. Toughen up, cupcake.

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rant_hammer — Sun, 13 Sep 2009 12:53:10 -0000

The space wolf codex is awesome, i do not play swolves but i have read the codex through and its true that their troop chooices are cheap as chips for what they do, but on the other side of the coin super expensive hq's of which they can have 4... hero hammer anyone? There are some dirty psychic tricks, and maybe they went abit odd when putting marines on wolves.... BUT this codex is balanced, there shouldnt be any of this whining when you've not even played them. Any balance issues may be related to people using an army with an older codex, the fact is they've just got better at righting codexes for 5th edition, wait your turn and people will be cursing your codex. Also may i remind you that they are still marines a well placed battle/plasma/template weapon of death will still kill them just as easily.

Wolf Players i look forward to meeting you across the table...

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Chaosgerbil — Sun, 13 Sep 2009 08:28:31 -0000

I wish the wolf was based more off a real wolf and less than off the fantasy GW wolf that came into vogue a decade or so ago.

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Chaosgerbil — Sun, 13 Sep 2009 08:26:52 -0000

Stop whining about people whining please.

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Chaosgerbil — Sun, 13 Sep 2009 08:26:06 -0000

Chaos got the opposite of codex creep IMO... codex mosey?

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Chaosgerbil — Sun, 13 Sep 2009 08:24:19 -0000

-50 Wizard points to Anon for mentioning masturbation, lard, wicca and wolves in the same post.

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Chaosgerbil — Sun, 13 Sep 2009 08:22:55 -0000

Gahhhh... why? Why can't a 40k edition have one standard Land Raider hull, with a few chapter or chaos legion specific upgrades? This mish-mash system is really annoying.

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Chaosgerbil — Sun, 13 Sep 2009 08:20:50 -0000

Battle cannons miss and cover saves abound, they're not enough.

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Chaosgerbil — Sun, 13 Sep 2009 08:19:41 -0000

Wow, yet another slap in the face to Chaos players.

"Grey hunters will be equipped as CSMs, with Counter-Attack, Acute Senses, and ATSKNF, for the price of a standard CSM."

It looks like the new Chaos Codex to me. Ironically I have an army of painted Space Wolves, but since I like Chaos better I think I'll finish my Word Bearers first and use this book.

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Conrad_Dakarn — Sun, 13 Sep 2009 04:55:40 -0000

I like that idea!

Beta testing codex's in specific stores but by invite only behind closed doors, maybe? Dunno, maybe get the testing players to sign a non disclosure form so that new stuff isn't leaked or if it is they get an ass kicking?

At least then the players get a say and can make suggestions as well as coming up with the "nod biker list" etc before the codex comes out and then finding out if it is too powerful for the table top.

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jack — Sat, 12 Sep 2009 19:23:15 -0000

just looked over the new codex, not allowed as many power weapons as the last codex

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Torhwood425 — Sat, 12 Sep 2009 11:26:43 -0000

everyone who is moaning about SW costing 'only' 15 points should get a grip its only a 1pt difference between vanilla marines so you only save 10pts per 10men in a squad before upgrades so unless your playing a huge apocalypse game it does not really matter so shut the frag up and stop whining

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Trashboss — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 20:24:01 -0000

Hmmm, thats a good point. Maybe they should start beta testing codii before they release finals. Like printable web accessible ones then do adjustments as necessary. There are obvious issues with that as well. ie, simply writing in the new rules or pt values on the beta sheet. Maybe test stores or something, i dunno.

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Slackermagee — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 14:26:01 -0000

I think people would rather run with with two special weapons than one heavy and one standard. As for drop pods and combat tactics... Grimmar and multi-melta/plasma cannon longfangs in a drop pod my friend... GG. Also, not having fearless is great. It means you don't auto-fail when you're fighting against better CC armies.

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7eAL — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 13:50:31 -0000

You forgot to count more scoring squads for objective grabs.

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mikejacktard — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 12:12:10 -0000

Don't be so sensitive. When he said the gay, maybe he meant they were really snappy dressers (why rainbow warriors could never be gay, i mean really have you seen that uniform, no gay marine would be caught dead in that), or they dance really nicely, or have exceptional organizational skills.

I think maybe you have a self image problem and just assume he meant it negatively. Maybe he meant they were Faabulous!!!!!?.

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schizofrantic — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 10:47:46 -0000

I agree. I'm a Templars player whose Codex isn't too great compared to the latest offerings. (Still not as bad off as DE players tho!) The only new Codex that I struggle to beat are the Orks. SM and IG Codices offer up a 50/50 win/loss ratio. Instead of whining about 'Codex Creep', why not try new tactics/different unit mixes and experiment. If its still no fun, then consider a new hobby. =)

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cavalier1864 — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 09:36:53 -0000

You are correct, I should have said moron.

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cavalier1864 — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 09:34:18 -0000

Probably because I am a gay rights activist.

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Conrad_Dakarn — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 05:58:52 -0000

No doubt they do test the lists quite a bit.....but after reading a white dwarf article not too long ago my faith in their abilities to use a codex and write an army list is somewhat shaken.

The article was about the doubles tournament which they entered and one of the lists was a Marine+Marine list.

In this list, they had a squad of 5 scouts for which they purchased 5 camo cloaks....They then proceeded to purchase Telion who has the Stealth USR. Camo cloaks grant the Stealth USR.

Having read the Stealth USR and chatted with members our my local club and GW, we've all agreed that Telion passes this USR onto the squad....so why buy the Camo Cloaks?

Even if he doesn't pass this on, why buy 5 when Telion doesn't get any advantage from it?

It's a published article in White Dwarf which should have been edited and checked and the players of the list supposedly know what they're doing.

Read the articles they put in there for battles and you start to see what many people consider "rookie" mistakes in their army builds.

This is why I don't trust GW to test a codex properly before publishing or to even find the most lethal form of the list that could be made and testing that.

Re: 40K NEWS: Space Wolves Latest Morsels

Joyous_Oblivion — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 03:48:49 -0000

Small amendment...

"SW Cons:
More Costly than Standard Marine"

Actually a point cheaper per marine.

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son of fire — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 20:55:08 -0000

My point just was to point out that the Genestealers have other stuff they can do. Of course they get more expensive if you tool them up, but so do SW.

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SinSynn — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 20:14:54 -0000

@duskraider-
nah.