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Guest — Sun, 19 Jul 2009 18:43:22 -0000

WATCH OUT they can do driveby-shooting ^^

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Jonathan B. — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 10:05:35 -0000

I quoted the references I have access to; how is that daft? Considering I don't own "Codex Dark Angels" but I do own "How to Paint Space Marines," I quoted what I have access to.

And, by the tone of your message, I'm not your mate.

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brad — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 18:19:07 -0000

Guys, this is how they are meant to look, fluff-wise. And all those talking about mutations should take a second to think that Vulkan was exactly the same. He grew up on the same planet, and had the same skin colour. It's a natural reaction to the massive amounts of radiation.

tl;dr this is the canon skin colour and anyone who says otherwise is incorrect

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SinSynn — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 17:58:35 -0000

'but there must be at least a few black and mexican guys out there somewhere'

-Someone has to be mopping the floors, after all!

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michael — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 15:04:52 -0000

space marines lose their identities through psycho-indoctination so no need to relate to parents ect.
there are quite a few disabled characters eg cassius is basically a brain in power armour
anyway going back to the salamanders i think its charcol black as the radiation would have caused severe burning to their skin but personally the best salamanders ive seen were painted with green flesh
if WD made an artical on painting different skin colours i might make some of my models bare headed

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Sathos — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 12:37:32 -0000

Quoting "how to paint space marines" as the source is a bit daft mate...you'd have been better off quoting from the DA's list of special characters themselves ie: Azrael is the current supreme commander of the Dark Angels, Ezekiel is the Grand master of librarians, Asmodai is the interrogator chaplain... also are Bethor, Gabriel, Sapphon...

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MrCuss — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 12:26:59 -0000

St George was apparently from modern day Turkey!

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Ginge — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 12:09:12 -0000

After reading Mechanicum with him imprisoning The Dragon I kinda took The Emporer to be the basis for the story of St George. Despite being the patron saint of England he never set foot here, lived in the persian gulf didn't he? I checked my ideas closer to the time, but I remember thinking the location described in mechanicum was where the real St George was said to have lived.

Now whether that effects WHERE he came from I don't know... he could have already been several thousand years old by this point and St George could just be one of MANY aliases he had over the years until he was ready to unite humanity... but I'd certainly say it's one of them :o)

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anon — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 11:28:25 -0000

wait a minute, guys. people are complaining that salamanders are black due to a gene-seed mutation, making the logical stretch that 'black is mutation, mutation is bad, black is bad' in gw fluff.

okay.

well, raven guard are lily-white due to a gene-seed mutation.

is anyone else seeing the problem with the pc police this time?

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nihilio — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 11:25:31 -0000

Technically most of the space marines come from low income families (Deathworlds, Hives etc)

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Anon — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 11:06:44 -0000

Well said.

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Anon — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 11:05:10 -0000

If you think about it eventually if the world became overpopulated there would be no more racial differences. Just one mixed race.

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Denzark — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 10:40:27 -0000

Salamander skin is nothing to do with race issues - probably more to do with the fact that GW avoids the politial correctness that strangles some parts of (government-interfered with) British society that requires positive discrimantion and proportional representation.

If it doesn't matter what colour your skin is what does it matter how many ethnicities are actually portrayed?

A load of tosh because what does it matter? I notice no one is complaining about the lack of homosexual disabled space marines from single parent, low income families.

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Kid Kyoto — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 10:06:45 -0000

y'know I really thought we were past the days when GW considered 'black skin' a chaos mutation.

I guess I was wrong.

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widowscar — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 05:06:05 -0000

there seems to be a lot of anger floating abou re: the black skin fluff...

In the recent story in Heroes of the Space Marines, they say the jet black skin is a by product of their gene seed, not a result of being from Nocturne. So it's like Space Wolves growing fangs or Blood Angels going mental....

To quote the book..... "genetic ebonisation of your skin when you became Astartes"..... Bit of a spoiler here, but he turns white again, as he was before he was a Salamander.

It does look atrocious on models though, I think we can all agree on that lol

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Lord Marius — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 03:15:46 -0000

Definitely. It's a proven fact that the majority of us Brits are a bit weedy and non-magical.

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Chaosgerbil — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 02:49:13 -0000

I sit corrected. Thanks.

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Harmokan — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 01:29:18 -0000

..and why should the Salis get their Skin darkned if their isn't any real UVradiation on Nocturne?!

According to the Melanochrome Organ nearly every Chapter could be black, simply by fighting under high UV condition ;)

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Kahoolin — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 00:27:56 -0000

I think the idea of jet-black skin with red eyes is pretty cool, like the drow elves in dungeons and dragons. I have to admit they didn't do it too well though.

As far as I can tell 40k players (and this includes studio painters) are predominantly white, so they paint their models white without even thinking about it. That's not racism, just lack of creativity and thoughtlessness. And as for the background, you can't fault a product of a particular culture (in this case white anglo) for being centred on that culture. Art and myth are elements of culture. If 40k was made in Japan it might have less white people but it also wouldn't be 40k.

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Cyclone — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 23:30:07 -0000

Having melanin in your skin (the pigmentation) doesnt really protect from radiation.... unless you're talking about UV rays, which is technically radiation..... Um, what is the source of this "harmful" radiation on Nocturn, is it the sun, or a nuclear holocaust thing?

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nihilio — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:37:48 -0000

You're welcome

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mathhammer — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:15:07 -0000

yet according to the fluff Space Marines change their skin color as the need dictates. Which means in most cases a fluff painting job, all the space marines would be black.

* Melanochrome - Linked to pigment cells in skin, this allows the Marine's skin to shield him from dangerous levels of radiation.

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Skragger — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:09:30 -0000

And we just KNOW which Primarch died first dont we....

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Boom_Radley — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:59:14 -0000

I don't care what the official fluff is. Salamanders should be terran-black.

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Jonathan B. — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:32:41 -0000

Thanks for splitting that hair so finely for us.