Bell of Lost Souls - Latest Comments in 40K Poll: Codex Peoples Choice Awards

Re: 40K Poll: Codex Peoples Choice Awards

Valourousheart — Wed, 01 Apr 2009 14:27:45 -0000

First, this pole doesn't seem to be that effecient at telling anything other than what armies people like to play (or more to the point what armies GW likes to support with new releases)... as the results are identical to the sales statistics for each army.

Perhaps if the mods could create a pole that allowed for us to actually rank the codexes, so that we could give weight to our check marks.

Second, I have real trouble believing that WH is equal to DE, as this pole shows. Just in a head to head match up, WH received a far better boost in 5th than DE.

Third, I find it hard to believe that the SM codex is so far superior to WH, when I have not lost a single game once to that new codex with my WH. I don't feel as though I am facing inferior plays... I know these guys are good... it is just that I win. But because of that it doesn't seem possible that the SM dex could possibly be 4.5 times better than WH.

4.5 times as many players sure... but not 4.5 times better.

Re: 40K Poll: Codex Peoples Choice Awards

Jaradakar — Mon, 30 Mar 2009 21:17:46 -0000

I don't know. My brother plays Daemon hunters (granted with Storm troopers with meltas in rhinos) and he does very very well. Granted he knows the rules inside and out and is one of the best players I know...

Just saying it can be done (but I think you have to rely on there ally options, you can't go pure GK).

Re: 40K Poll: Codex Peoples Choice Awards

Jaradakar — Mon, 30 Mar 2009 21:16:52 -0000

I can't believe Chaos Daemons have got so many votes. The pure randomness imo makes they not very good. If all your deep strikes go your way... if there is terrain that not only blocks LOS but is tall enough to block LOS for your larger deamons (a rarity in our group), then they can do okay.

But it's like praying for a good hand in poker, sure it does happen sometimes but often as not, you're at the mercy of your deep strike roles.

Re: 40K Poll: Codex Peoples Choice Awards

Kris — Mon, 30 Mar 2009 11:28:12 -0000

this really is not about the best / worst of 40k, its more of pick your favorite army that you play, and naturally SM, CSM and Orks are on the top as they get the most product releases. and are the most current, run this poll in June and IG will likely be number 1. the longer an army goes without a codex update, the farther down the list it goes.

Re: 40K Poll: Codex Peoples Choice Awards

Kris — Mon, 30 Mar 2009 02:09:24 -0000

Hmm, I have one like one game against Necrons. But that's because I play Tau, and I understand that one of the most potent strategies is Termies, because they ignore armor saves and WWB? Well I don't have a Space Marine army and I don't intend on starting one anytime soon.

Re: 40K Poll: Codex Peoples Choice Awards

Bob — Sun, 29 Mar 2009 05:33:43 -0000

There's something wrong with your poll. Every time I visit this site it acts as if I haven't voted before. Has it registered my vote or not?

Re: 40K Poll: Codex Peoples Choice Awards

Halo — Sat, 28 Mar 2009 21:54:29 -0000

Are you marking a distinction between 'good' for the average person (tyranid, orcs) or 'good' for really skilled players (sisters)?

Re: 40K Poll: Codex Peoples Choice Awards

Gamekanik — Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:18:11 -0000

i agree completely, however, that doesn't change what most people are
doing. the current buzz word in the land of BoLS is IG. *shrug* what
more can someone expect?

Re: 40K Poll: Codex Peoples Choice Awards

Cpt. Banjo — Sat, 28 Mar 2009 19:51:11 -0000

Some armies are definitely going to be up there at the top.

You only need to play against Orks once to realise how incredibly difficult they are in the hands of even a partially competent player.

Regards,

Cpt. Banjo

Re: 40K Poll: Codex Peoples Choice Awards

Aidoneus — Sat, 28 Mar 2009 17:37:21 -0000

I don't play enough different people, with enough different armies, to be a good judge of this. Also, I think it depends a lot on what venue you're in and what the metagame looks like. Most of all though, it's a matter of how talented the player is, and how well has constructs and handles his list.

On the other hand, even with the most capable player around, Daemonhunters and Necrons are just NOT going to be in the top 8.

Re: 40K Poll: Codex Peoples Choice Awards

Bob — Sat, 28 Mar 2009 16:11:07 -0000

I'll pick the best 8 in terms of quality and variety, but I don't consider an army to be among the best in terms of how powerful it is, because if it's too powerful it damages the fun of the game.

Re: 40K Poll: Codex Peoples Choice Awards

UltramarineFan — Sat, 28 Mar 2009 15:05:14 -0000

For me the order goes like this;

Space Marines
Orks
Chaos Space Marines
Necrons
Tyranids
Tau
Space Wolves
Daemonhunters

I just put in SW and DH because I couldn't think of any toehr army that would deserve to eb that high up. Space Marines can be really disgusting if you know how to use them, though even a beginner can do pretty well with them. I put Orks secong because they're just not good enough at shooting for me to put them above SM, who are good in all situations.

Re: 40K Poll: Codex Peoples Choice Awards

Herald of Nurgle — Sat, 28 Mar 2009 14:43:19 -0000

Guard can build awesome lists even now
In addition, I counted Imperial Guard AS WELL AS Guard Variants for my vote

Re: 40K Poll: Codex Peoples Choice Awards

Herald of Nurgle — Sat, 28 Mar 2009 14:42:22 -0000

A normal power build will be able to cope with having either of those happening, and will usually only be felled by a combination of both
A DAEMON power build can't

Re: 40K Poll: Codex Peoples Choice Awards

little brother — Sat, 28 Mar 2009 14:21:01 -0000

I cannot believe Dark Angels have got such a low vote, on a par with necrons. Everyone has been on such a downer about the dark angels since the space marine codex came out. No way are they only as good as necrons and worse than space wolves. It always amazes me that people are so desperate to look for advantages in new codices and flaws, weaknesses in the old ones.

Re: 40K Poll: Codex Peoples Choice Awards

valhallan42nd — Sat, 28 Mar 2009 13:50:27 -0000

My Picks:
Orks (Nuff said)
Chaos Marines (dual lash, oblits)
Chaos Daemons (Fatecrusher, Mono-Nurgle)
Dark Eldar (In the right hands this list can destroy)
Eldar (Same thing)
Black Templar (focused close combat army with rerolls? Yes, please)
Blood Angels (Dante-corbulo lists can wreck your day)
Marines (Vulkan lists)

Re: 40K Poll: Codex Peoples Choice Awards

Jabba — Sat, 28 Mar 2009 13:24:01 -0000

What is the criterion in which we use to judge?

Re: 40K Poll: Codex Peoples Choice Awards

valhallan42nd — Sat, 28 Mar 2009 13:16:54 -0000

My Epidemius army is currently owning a league here in MD. If you're not winning as consistently as daemons, then it's probably your list.

Re: 40K Poll: Codex Peoples Choice Awards

valhallan42nd — Sat, 28 Mar 2009 13:14:44 -0000

Both chaos codices are strong, certainly stronger than the current necron and IG codices. Maybe you should reevaluate your lists.

Re: 40K Poll: Codex Peoples Choice Awards

valhallan42nd — Sat, 28 Mar 2009 13:10:11 -0000

I'm surprised daemons aren't ranking higher, given the moaning people do about them.

Re: 40K Poll: Codex Peoples Choice Awards

ThePrecious — Sat, 28 Mar 2009 12:29:54 -0000

Stores CAN carry them, they just don't have pretty packaging. Direct Only come in plain white boxes, or baggies. My local shop carries a huge amount of "Direct Only", although the owner can't stand the shoddy packaging on them.

Re: 40K Poll: Codex Peoples Choice Awards

Necron_Lord — Sat, 28 Mar 2009 12:00:00 -0000

My eight are the following:

Orks
Chaos Space Marines
Space Marines
Black Templars
Eldar
Imperial Guard
Dark Eldar
Necrons

Orks are on because of Nob Bikerz - no other scoring unit in the game is as tough and maneuverable
CSM - summoned Daemons who can assault on the turn they arrive and being as good as normal SM but with better gear and costing the same
SM - drop pod assault on the first turn and having to destroy/immobilize Dreadnoughts who have landed within assault range and always the most well rounded list
Black Templars - nasty in CC
Eldar - when played well, they will have a list tailor-made to destroy your army
IG - when played well, they are tough to break down and can dish out the pain
Dark Eldar - DL spam and the DE Lord with retinue are nasty and Wyches are still good
Necrons - the list can suck against some of the newer, powered up codexes, but I still do OK with them. I typically always have Destroyers, Monolith and Immortals with a Lord with VoD and then whatever else seems appropriate against the opponent. They suck in CC and if you know a CC beast will threaten you, it's almost mandatory to take a C'tan in games over 1750 pts, but I do fairly well against CSM, SM and nids with this list. We definitely need a new codex. You listening, GW?

Re: 40K Poll: Codex Peoples Choice Awards

Farsight — Sat, 28 Mar 2009 11:57:53 -0000

Can't that be said for any army? :)

Re: 40K Poll: Codex Peoples Choice Awards

sodcactus — Sat, 28 Mar 2009 11:52:54 -0000

Maybe it lacks in flavor but the army-list part of it is solid. Very few "funky" units and can pull some very hard-core lists....

Re: 40K Poll: Codex Peoples Choice Awards

Hrudboy — Sat, 28 Mar 2009 11:52:09 -0000

This poll is meant to be about which codexes are most powerful, and that's how I voted, but I don't think everyone's voting on the same factors. Favouritism is creeping in. For what it's worth, I don't actually like any of the codexes I voted as best. They're all pretty damn boring in one way or another, but they allow you to make powerful armies.