Personally there are many more armies to worry about revamping than the Space Wolfs. This habbit GW gets into of making 1 codex for every other army then 6 for space marines gets a little annoying. Would it kill them to just release all the chapter spesific rules in one book.
You don't see a codex for every IG regiment, Chaos Sect,Eldar Craftworld, Ork Tribe, and Tau Sept. and in a way this is unfair to every other army who end up paying to be second class punching bags for the Emperah's finest. Hello, Dark eldar, Witch Hunters, and anyone else nutured by 5th edition.
BDub
· 7 months ago
Like it or not the 40K universe is Imperial centric and Space Marine biased - that will likely never change.
But one thing I have always wished for is that GW get rid of the ,one codex at a time over the course of few years, paradigm. Especially when not all codexes get updated before a new rules edition comes out. To me thats just bad business.
Instead I wish they took a more Privateer Press approach and updated there whole universe and timeline at once, equally, across all factions. You come out with a big book and the main minis and characters for each faction and then slowly roll out more minis from the book over time - again, equally across all factions.
Granted that this approach would be more cumbersome for GW than it is for PP, but GW has more resources to bring to bare on this.
I think it would make the player base alot happier in the long run.
Riot-Man
· 7 months ago
There has been a problem with the codexes published just before the release of 5th edition. Chaos marines and Orks in particular seem to be lagging behind in the rules. they don't seem to take advantage of 5th edition as much as the space Marine or IG codex. And i think this has a lot to do with what your saying. the longer into a given eddition that a codex is written the more it seems tuned to the tatics and rules of the core book.
Weather this is intentional or not isn't my concern but for people who play 40k alot this turns into "Codex de-jour always dominates the game" and it just rolls throuh each book. When the new chaos came out they were on top of the tourny lists second only to Mech (clowns in falcons) eldar. then the Orks hit the shelves no one could really stop them. Repeat again with new Space Marines and now guardsmen are poised to take the spotlight for a while.
Releasing all the armies at one time would at least put the writers in the same place at the same time so that one army doesn't benafit from 4 or 6 years of gaming in a given rules set as someone working with an outdated codex.
Charles Magurean
· 7 months ago
It's about spreading the inflow of money over a span of time not all at once. They are a business after all. *This statement is not meant to be sarcastic or negative.*
Riot-Man
· 7 months ago
Than sell the individual books separately but at least write them at the same time so we don't end up with this rolling superiority. Gw is going to make the same amount of money by publishing all their rule books at the same time that they would doing this 4 month/6 month army revision. and it would be a more balanced game over all.
Bluesfart
· 7 months ago
would you prefer a more long term superiority? I think it's a good thing that there's a flavor of the week, rather than the possibility of an army that's better for years.
I'm happy with my race, but it's interesting to get cycles of new foes to play against.
KidDiscordia
· 7 months ago
Then it is unfortunate that PP will be rolling out Faction Books following the release of Warmachine MK2.
BDub
· 7 months ago
Bummer, I hadn't been following Warmachine or Hordes since I moved back to Austin from Seattle. That is sad to hear.
Anon
· 7 months ago
I have to say that I am more of a fan for generic models and upgrade sprues instead of chapter specific models. So many possibilities flushed down the toilet because the metal model has silly teeth and unruly hair :(
Diapers
· 7 months ago
we could all have cool minis but instead gw makes lame chapter specific minis. it would be coolers if the whole mini range could be customized insted of sculpting them as members of a chapter.
Seth James
· 7 months ago
Given that the only current forgeworld infantry sw models are the terminator upgrades this makes perfect sense. It also pairs with the WHW pics from earlier in the week that appeared to show that the current Long Fangs were not being used for photoshoots.
September never looked so good!
The David
· 7 months ago
Am I the only one who feels the space wolves should go away and never return.
Bulwark
· 7 months ago
yes
KINGS
· 7 months ago
Hey you play Space Wolves!
~kings
Tuzgai
· 7 months ago
Yes.
Charles Magurean
· 7 months ago
Yes
Shallowain
· 7 months ago
Yes
MarcusZ
· 7 months ago
Yes.
Galahad
· 7 months ago
yes
DaveDaveDave
· 7 months ago
Yes.
DaveDaveDave
· 7 months ago
That's so weird. I picked a random name. A random email. And I logged in as someone.
Dave
TrevytheGreat
· 7 months ago
That is weird.
touchdown
· 7 months ago
I think you found your soulmate.
LordMarkgraf
· 7 months ago
yes
TrevytheGreat
· 7 months ago
Indeed you are, you heretical blasphemer.
The David
· 7 months ago
and so i am. lol I do play marines and would be happy if Space Wolves were just a little more balanced. (I know everything is unbalanced) the space wolves have always been more powerful but cheaper than all other space Marines. It'd be nice if they had a few drawbacks for change. on a side note here is a silly history fact for you. In many Indian cultures wolves are considered mythical and sacred animals but in my tribe they are viewed a bit differently. There are stories about the wicked trickster Coyote and his slow dimwitted friend Wolf. To say someone is a wolf spirit is to call them mentally retarded. My local gaming club one of our members has the nickname Wolf and I remind of this fact whenever he pulls off a really bad tactic. (I hope everybody gets a good laugh out of this is not meant to offend anyone)
Big Jim
· 7 months ago
Wolves have no drawbacks? That's news to me. Our Grey Hunters with bolters are more expensive then regular marine, the Cheap Blood Claws have BS/WS 3, Long Fangs are really expensive and have no ablative wounds. Sure they hve some nifty special rules but they do have drawbacks too.
Lord Solar
· 7 months ago
Yes, heretic.
Old_Paladin
· 7 months ago
Pretty much seems to just be you.
Personaly, I love the Wolves. Although I don't play them; their 2nd Ed Codex was the first Codex I ever owned (and has a special place in my heart).
Molochi
· 7 months ago
No
Molochi
· 7 months ago
wait.... yes.
fenris
· 7 months ago
Yes.
Matthew_Rider
· 7 months ago
Yes (Abit late)
Mellon
· 7 months ago
Maybe not the only one, but I think you represent a very small minority.
denzark
· 7 months ago
Am I the only one who wishes you would spontaneously combust?
Grimskul25
· 7 months ago
Nope I agree (Don't kill me!)
Cergorach
· 7 months ago
Shoot the heretic!
whitewolfmxc
· 7 months ago
YES ! and your not cool too
Sham Adams
· 7 months ago
Yes
corey
· 7 months ago
no
Myu
· 7 months ago
And by "no" I think you mean "yes" :P
GRAND TERRESQUE POWER!
· 7 months ago
Yes.
Blackwolf
· 7 months ago
yes
Joshugan
· 7 months ago
Yes.
Oh, and Denzark, you are not alone.
BigGrim
· 7 months ago
Yes.
Matthew
· 7 months ago
Yes.
Myu
· 7 months ago
Yes, also, Denzark, I'm with as well :P
Parcival
· 7 months ago
Yes.
BigGrim
· 5 months ago
Yes.
darrrrren
· 7 months ago
sweet!!!!! cant wait to see some of the new metal minis.
Herald of Nurgle
· 7 months ago
No complaints here
TrevytheGreat
· 7 months ago
Excellent, I have some marines hanging around and they are looking mighty fine as recruits for an army of Vikings in Space. Looking forward to new models too. Space Wolves really do need a re-do.
Haljin
· 7 months ago
Sounds good. I could play Marines, yet not like everyone else, as I'd probably be the only one with SW around (We have on DA, one BT and a dozen of codex SMs, which makes me reluctant in starting a SM army even though I like the dex and everything. Would go with Chaos if the dex wasn't so meh)
John
· 7 months ago
A gut feeling tells me the new Space Wolves are likely to be really powerful. They're likely to receive all the benefits of the new Space Marine codex plus a few new benefits. Not trying to start a power-creep debate just pointing out that along with the some of the best fluff around the SWs are gonna get everything they need to make them a really attractive/competitive army (ie cool minis and special rules).
One more thing to read until a new Inquisition codex comes out...
LoganG
· 7 months ago
Dont know if this has been mentioned but the Horus book with SW has just been postponed until 1Q 2010
Yeah, a lot of the haircuts are kinda dumb, and there aren't enough fangs. You can use some fantasy marauder and fanatic heads for wild looking mountain men heads, but it's really only worth getting the boxes if you have another use for the rest of the bits.
It looks like my timing was bad, I finally bought some plastic devastators a few months back to be long fangs, oh well it wasn't too hard to do some minor conversions.
Wraithwing
· 7 months ago
I sincerely hope I get my Novamarines and Dark Angels finished before September!
I've got a squad of Grey Hunters and a squad of Blood Claws sitting in a cupboard unpainted and ready to be used in an army.
I think you'll find I pillaged it like a true space viking :D
DaveDaveDave
· 7 months ago
Rape the men, pillage the sheep, and burn the women!
Space Vikings Hotoho!
fenris
· 7 months ago
Purely speculative, but maybe they will release the long wished for plastic Thunderhawk along with SW. My suspicions were raised when in the WD focusing on the Stompa's, there was artwork on one of the pages with a SW Thunderhawk performing a strafing run. Looking back at stuff, GW has foreshadowed stuff and hidden things right in front of us before.
Brother_Marius
· 7 months ago
Heck, the wolves are the only other space marine army I've ever thought about switching to. I've been ultras forever... but I just recently picked up a buncha painted wolves off ebay for cheap. I hope they do put out some upgrade packs, makes it nice to have all kinds of bits etc. I can't wait to see what the wolves do.
chris
· 7 months ago
So, do any of your moms and dads know that you've been spending all day fooling around on their computers instead of fingerpainting like you're supposed to?
Tom Harris
· 7 months ago
I finished my fingerpainting early today. :P
TSINI
· 7 months ago
i hope it was a unicorn! i made one from pasta twirls!
fade_74
· 7 months ago
You only made that unicorn so you could eat the paste. lol
Shalppy
· 7 months ago
I dunno but it's your mom who knows what I've been doing with my fingers.
chris
· 7 months ago
Picking your nose is only that sort of naughty-cool for about fifteen minutes in kindergarten. Now you're just sad.
TSINI
· 7 months ago
your mum picked her nose for 15 minutes in kindergarten, now shes just sad
DaveDaveDave
· 7 months ago
Dude, my Mom's dead. That's so freaking sick.
DaveDaveDave
· 7 months ago
DaveDaveDave, whoever you are, you need to change your email. dave@dave.com is just too easy dude.
DaveDaveDave
· 7 months ago
Nah, you're the only person to guess it. I doubt anyone else will.
NotDaveNotDaveNotDave
· 7 months ago
Still, that's really, really weird. You should claim your profile now!
HerbHerbHerb
· 7 months ago
Man, I am GOOD!
DaveDaveDave
· 7 months ago
Seriously, no need. It's not like people are using my picture with their comments.
RFT
· 7 months ago
Mot sure I see the point of a Long Fang Box - if you're doing Space wolves it's practically guaranteed you'll have enough wolfy bits left over from blood claws and gret hunters to convert a vanilla marine devastator squad. I'd rather have a Power-armour wolfguard veterans box in the same mould as the DA verts box.
Plastic wolf guard termies sound good, but I've already got the FW ones.
Still, Space wolves have been my army since RT and it's good to see them getting some love again.
dietrich
· 7 months ago
If there is a plastic longfang box, I suspect it's because they get different weapon options from Dev Squads. Otherewise, they could just do like DA - revise the SW upgrade sprue, and you could convert the plastic SM devs into long fangs easily enough.
BigGrim
· 7 months ago
This make me a very happy Wolf! Plastic Long Fangs & Wolf Guard Terminators? Yes please! Didn't expect the Claws or Hunters to change much but an updated (Heavily expanded? One can hope!) SW Sprue would be very very welcome!
Been playing the Wolves since Rogue Trader. Been waiting for a new Codex so long I started a Salamader Army and built an Eldar Swordwind force. Now I have a deadline to get them finished!
For September! For the Wolftime! FOR RUSS!
Alpharius
· 7 months ago
Am I the only one that feels "The David" should go away and never return?
denzark
· 7 months ago
No but only after he spontaneously combusts...
Honsou
· 7 months ago
Werewolf Space-Vikings!
Blackmane
· 7 months ago
i'm looking forward to a new space wolf codex, they were the first 40k army i had when i started playing 5 or 6 years ago, especially like the idea of plastic wolf guard terminators :)
Parcival
· 7 months ago
*sigh* It's getting increasingly harder to tell myself that I don't need Space Wolves as I have already poured thousands of Dollars into Blood Angels and reading BoLS isn't really helpful in this context. =)
Shin_Ra
· 7 months ago
i could imagine that the Sons of Russ would get more than a Exterminator Leman Russ varition tank if there codex does come out. perhaps make a wulfan actually useful
All Comments
You don't see a codex for every IG regiment, Chaos Sect,Eldar Craftworld, Ork Tribe, and Tau Sept. and in a way this is unfair to every other army who end up paying to be second class punching bags for the Emperah's finest. Hello, Dark eldar, Witch Hunters, and anyone else nutured by 5th edition.
But one thing I have always wished for is that GW get rid of the ,one codex at a time over the course of few years, paradigm. Especially when not all codexes get updated before a new rules edition comes out. To me thats just bad business.
Instead I wish they took a more Privateer Press approach and updated there whole universe and timeline at once, equally, across all factions. You come out with a big book and the main minis and characters for each faction and then slowly roll out more minis from the book over time - again, equally across all factions.
Granted that this approach would be more cumbersome for GW than it is for PP, but GW has more resources to bring to bare on this.
I think it would make the player base alot happier in the long run.
Weather this is intentional or not isn't my concern but for people who play 40k alot this turns into "Codex de-jour always dominates the game" and it just rolls throuh each book. When the new chaos came out they were on top of the tourny lists second only to Mech (clowns in falcons) eldar. then the Orks hit the shelves no one could really stop them. Repeat again with new Space Marines and now guardsmen are poised to take the spotlight for a while.
Releasing all the armies at one time would at least put the writers in the same place at the same time so that one army doesn't benafit from 4 or 6 years of gaming in a given rules set as someone working with an outdated codex.
I'm happy with my race, but it's interesting to get cycles of new foes to play against.
September never looked so good!
~kings
Dave
I do play marines and would be happy if Space Wolves were just a little more balanced. (I know everything is unbalanced) the space wolves have always been more powerful but cheaper than all other space Marines. It'd be nice if they had a few drawbacks for change.
on a side note here is a silly history fact for you. In many Indian cultures wolves are considered mythical and sacred animals but in my tribe they are viewed a bit differently. There are stories about the wicked trickster Coyote and his slow dimwitted friend Wolf. To say someone is a wolf spirit is to call them mentally retarded. My local gaming club one of our members has the nickname Wolf and I remind of this fact whenever he pulls off a really bad tactic. (I hope everybody gets a good laugh out of this is not meant to offend anyone)
Personaly, I love the Wolves. Although I don't play them; their 2nd Ed Codex was the first Codex I ever owned (and has a special place in my heart).
Oh, and Denzark, you are not alone.
Looking forward to new models too. Space Wolves really do need a re-do.
One more thing to read until a new Inquisition codex comes out...
Source: blacklibrary.com
It looks like my timing was bad, I finally bought some plastic devastators a few months back to be long fangs, oh well it wasn't too hard to do some minor conversions.
I've got a squad of Grey Hunters and a squad of Blood Claws sitting in a cupboard unpainted and ready to be used in an army.
Really looking forward to this.
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWLLLLLLLLLLLLL
LLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WOOF WOOF!!
WAGGY TAIL TIME!
Bad space puppy!
Space Vikings Hotoho!
I can't wait to see what the wolves do.
Plastic wolf guard termies sound good, but I've already got the FW ones.
Still, Space wolves have been my army since RT and it's good to see them getting some love again.
Been playing the Wolves since Rogue Trader. Been waiting for a new Codex so long I started a Salamader Army and built an Eldar Swordwind force. Now I have a deadline to get them finished!
For September! For the Wolftime! FOR RUSS!