Bell of Lost Souls - Latest Comments in BFG: Admiral on Deck

Re: BFG: Admiral on Deck

fracas — Mon, 20 Jul 2009 07:48:41 -0000

a balanced fleet has usually works well for me, and i have not been overwelmed by other carrier based fleets or eldars.

i think most fleets should have 2-4 bays per 500 pts. if the enemy has more than you, play defensive with Combat Air Patrol (now available in BFG v1.5).
i also always take ships with 45cm range batteries to handle eldars.

like 40k, you need a nice mix of forces, tanks, anti-tanks, infantry, fast infantry, etc. a maxed out focused force can wins you many games sure, but it will lose plenty as well.

Yes some fleets are stronger than others, like Necrons and Eldars, but they don't automatically win. And some fleets are a bit weaker, like Space Marines, but i have had success with them as well. Interesting enough, this is keeping in with the fluff (higher tech of Necrons and Eldars and that Space Marines aren't usually used for fleet actions)

Re: BFG: Admiral on Deck

horizon — Sun, 19 Jul 2009 13:49:14 -0000

Hi,
all official rules are on the GW site. Except the faq as said and the Rogue Trader rules. But the faq's on the most popular BFG site: www.portmaw.com

So, which 'official' rules are missing?

And you do know about this:

http://www.sg.tacticalwarga...

Re: BFG: Admiral on Deck

Dooley — Sat, 18 Jul 2009 23:23:24 -0000

Maybe its because not alot of people played back when I did but it seemed like if you didnt play either Imp Navy or Chaos fleets you werent gonna do very well. I tried doing a space marine fleet but constantly got outclassed by the inexhaustible amount of cruisers Carriers destroyers and the such that the IN and CF can produce! Or maybe I just sucked at it!

Re: BFG: Admiral on Deck

The Grog — Sat, 18 Jul 2009 22:19:11 -0000

Oh, and assault boats/boarding torps were godly. 3 or 4 hits from either tended to turn a cruiser into a weaponless hulk for several turns.

Re: BFG: Admiral on Deck

The Grog — Sat, 18 Jul 2009 22:10:57 -0000

When I played way back on release it rapidly turned into 'Whoever has more fighter bays wins' and 'Eldar wins'. A significant bay advantage let you stand off, run away while picking off escorts, and then just swarm cruisers.
Did they fix that?

Re: BFG: Admiral on Deck

stormhammer — Sat, 18 Jul 2009 03:40:33 -0000

Of course I know they have lances etc, but I'm refering to tactical considerations. You can 2 battlecruisers moving towards each other blasting away and quite likely the 2 battlecruisers (assuming they maneuver to avoid torpedo launches etc) can move past each other before one of them takes severe damage. That means very short range tactics, effectively speaking you're at knife fight ranges at all times maneuverwise. I'd put it closer to civil war river gunboat duels than your typical WW2 surface action. This is reinforced by your typical "board edge" restrictions. Space doesn't have board edges.

Re: BFG: Admiral on Deck

dvastator — Sat, 18 Jul 2009 00:39:20 -0000

Thanks for the response Fracas! Quite the Lovely Fleet you have! Looking forward to more of the same!

Re: BFG: Admiral on Deck

Meatball — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:00:19 -0000

I have always felt that BFG has soem of the best rules that GW ever developed. The game runs smoothly and I have yet to play a gmae that wasn't action packed.

Re: BFG: Admiral on Deck

fracas — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 15:28:01 -0000

the models are representations of the ships. they are not set to scale of the table ranges.

yes, they have rules for boarding actions, as well as lances, shields, and aliens. so no, it is not a WW2 fleet action exactly.

Re: BFG: Admiral on Deck

stormhammer — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 15:19:14 -0000

Surface navy battles of WWII? Not hardly, the ranges are pitifully point blank range and for gods sake you have rules for boarding actions! While yes there were a few boarding actions during WWII if I recall they pretty much all involved seizing control of U-boats that had been forced to stay on surface due to damage. There were also very few actions that allowed gun armed ships to get within striking range of enemy carriers, one in the pacific and the sinking of the HMS Glorious in the atlantic if I recall were about it. If all surface actions started at about 8k meters then yeah, you might have an point, but no.

Re: BFG: Admiral on Deck

KellyJ — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 15:00:40 -0000

As far as conversions...I de-chaosed some of those models and use them as VERY old pre-heresy imperial ships that did not defect. Especially if you want to use them as an Eclisiastic Black Ship.

Re: BFG: Admiral on Deck

Demosthenes — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:10:42 -0000

BFG is an awesome game. Dark Eldar Kick @SS. Mimic Engines ftw!

Re: BFG: Admiral on Deck

CarbonBased — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 10:32:34 -0000

Thanks, found them

Re: BFG: Admiral on Deck

TheTruth — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 10:22:08 -0000

LIAR!

Re: BFG: Admiral on Deck

manton — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 10:10:04 -0000

GW's online store has the whole range (i think). Huge choice of spacemarine and imperial navy ships to choose from.

Re: BFG: Admiral on Deck

CarbonBased — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 10:03:37 -0000

I'm interested in picking up a small fleet for my DIY space marine chapter. I saw a few models on the FW site. Is there anywhere else to get these?

Ahh, nevermind, I see they're available on the main site.

Re: BFG: Admiral on Deck

the_killer23 — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:49:31 -0000

Yeah, in BFG it actually matters which side you're facing.

(is that a converted planetkiller? it looks like it has less guns than usual.)

Re: BFG: Admiral on Deck

bushidoredpanda — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:24:08 -0000

I have a Necron fleet and an Eldar fleet. I really like the way BFG rus as a game. It always feels like strategy is more important.

Re: BFG: Admiral on Deck

UltramarineFan — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 08:59:52 -0000

I have to say that the prices are very tempting and in the long run I'll probably get a space marine fleet if not to play with just because they look good and maybe a pre heresy death guard force (I love that colour scheme).

Re: BFG: Admiral on Deck

viron — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 08:45:22 -0000

They can also drop back into the warp, repair and reappear in later turns.

Re: BFG: Admiral on Deck

Daximu — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 08:41:38 -0000

I thought there was something diferent to your planetkiller, kinda looks like it was built backwards.

I love Gothic too, easily one of GW's best games, too bad it doesnt get more support.

I currently have two fleets, a Space Marine fleet that I have to finish painting someday and a completed Chaos Fleet. So if anyone in the GTA wants to throw down, let me know.

Re: BFG: Admiral on Deck

Daximu — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 08:37:04 -0000

The Demonships can "pop up" out of the warp, kinda like 40k deep striking. Not true submarine action of shooting you with you having the chance to fight back effectively, but closer to how subs originally worked.

Re: BFG: Admiral on Deck

fracas — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 07:29:07 -0000

Actually there are plenty of opportunities to model and customize ships in BFG. A poster above asked about what my chaos escorts are. They are customized Idolator class escorts. And though less obvious due to the size of the pic, the Planet Killer and my Styx heavy cruiser are also customized some.

I'll address this topic more in my next post.

Thanks for reading all.

Re: BFG: Admiral on Deck

2dme — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 07:26:50 -0000

The Warp Rift rules are pretty good for the Rogue Trader fleets, however, i have the originals knocking around somewhere aswell... Sadly the demkise of the Specialist Games website meant that much of the official rules and extras were lost, as only a few of the plethora of rules were re-hosted on the new GW website.
GW released some pretty good Rogue Trader fleet models mind...

Re: BFG: Admiral on Deck

Myu — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 06:19:28 -0000

Oh?