Bell of Lost Souls - Latest Comments in Hobby: Green Stuff 101

Re: Hobby: Green Stuff 101

Lunar_Camel — Sun, 14 Jun 2009 15:51:44 -0000

Trust me. When I worked for GW, I saw some strange things go on in that store (both customers and employees).

Re: Hobby: Green Stuff 101

LordBoofhead — Sun, 14 Jun 2009 07:22:26 -0000

He spits on the green stuff, he doesn't lick it!

Any other tips you wanna add? *rolls eyes*

Re: Hobby: Green Stuff 101

BDub — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 15:50:38 -0000

You will still probably need some wax tools and/or some picks. I don't think clay shapers alone will give you a good range of effects. But with that said, I have seen master works done in Green Stuff with nothing but fingers and a toothpick.

Re: Hobby: Green Stuff 101

BDub — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 15:46:27 -0000

Previously I mentioned that that these come in two stiffnesses - after following this link I noticed the third or "soft" one as well. I would avoid the soft ones for Greenstuff all together as I have the "firm" and the 'extra firm" as it turns out and even the "firm" are a little too soft to be of any use with epoxies. So go with the "extra firm" for working Green Stuff and only get the others if you work with polymer clays or anything softer than that.

Re: Hobby: Green Stuff 101

BDub — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 14:59:52 -0000

I just thought I would mention that Clay Shapers typically come in two stiffnesses. While both have their uses, the firmer ones are much more useful when working with Green Stuff. I have a set of both and the soft ones are useful only on soft polymer clays like sculpey. The firmer ones can always be used with a lighter touch for much the same result as using the softer ones.
Just a heads up.

Re: Hobby: Green Stuff 101

Engelus — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 20:09:30 -0000

I routinely use green stuff, and ocasionally brownstuff, Ive only used plumbers epoxy twice. however, the brownstuff is far more expensive than greenstuff. so whatever he is talking about being far cheaper than greenstuff couldn't be the stuff I am thinking of. it must therefore be someotherstuff

http://i48.photobucket.com/...

here the seat is greenstuff, and the armor plate on the front is brownstuff

Re: Hobby: Green Stuff 101

Psyberwolfe — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 20:04:52 -0000

I took sculpting weapons and accesories with Jason Wiebe at ReaperCon 07

Re: Hobby: Green Stuff 101

Psyberwolfe — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 20:03:12 -0000

Flavored Lube makes your sculpting tools not taste so nasty if you lick them. :D

Re: Hobby: Green Stuff 101

Psyberwolfe — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 19:55:38 -0000

I get mine at Jerry's Art-O-Rama. Asels art also carries them. Online you can get them through Dick Blick or Jerry's Art-O-Rama.

Re: Hobby: Green Stuff 101

Psyberwolfe — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 19:53:41 -0000

Your mistake was using plumbers epoxy. The stuff sold by Gale Force or Reaper is a finer grade and therefore you will never get those results. You will quickly find that the stuff in the hardware store sucks. I now bite the bullet and buy the sculpting grade stuff.

Re: Hobby: Green Stuff 101

Engelus — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 18:19:22 -0000

or maybe I just brush with plumbing epoxy.

but my point still stands, for things like cloaks and organic bits, it never has a good consistancy to work with, it goes quickly from smushy, to crumbly to solid.

Re: Hobby: Green Stuff 101

DaBigNob — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 18:02:27 -0000

Have you tried using that new "Yours and Mine" lube from KY? It comes in two separate bottles, red and blue. It fully "activates" when the two colors mix. Sort of like the way green stuff works!!! It's gotta be good! :-)

Seriously though, thanks for the tips. I didn't even know about such things as those clay shaper tools. I've got a full set of sculpting tools (the set from GF9) but screw it... I completely suck at sculpting. The only thing I've ever been able to accomplish with green stuff is filling gaps between joints.

But even though I'm not any good at sculpting, I still would like to make a recommendation. It's for "GF9 Grey Stuff". I like the way it works better than the green stuff. It tends to go on smoother and is less textured and less "gritty" for lack of a better word than green stuff. Plus, it comes in two mongo sized tubes rather than the little blister pack sold by GW and was a much better deal money wise. Green Stuff seems to be the defacto standard, but I think everyone should try this Grey Stuff at least once.

Re: Hobby: Green Stuff 101

faultie — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 15:45:56 -0000

You sure use thick toothpaste, if it's comparable to plumbing epoxy.

Re: Hobby: Green Stuff 101

Engelus — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 15:20:06 -0000

I made a cloak out of plumbers epoxy (aka grey stuff") do not reccomend it

it starts out creamy and like toothpaste, then in 10 minutes its stale cake frosting, and in 10 more its concrete.

Re: Hobby: Green Stuff 101

Engelus — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 15:18:30 -0000

oops wrong spot

Re: Hobby: Green Stuff 101

bootleg — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 15:00:19 -0000

the KY tip is great... and yes i can think of a hundred jokes to put in here but come on kiddies good tips are good tips and if there is ky on the tip well...... see how easy it was for one of those jokes to slip in there real easy...must of been the KY...ok ok i'll stop now

Re: Hobby: Green Stuff 101

evilamericorp — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 14:19:44 -0000

sculpt.com, search for "silicone clay shapers"

Re: Hobby: Green Stuff 101

Admiral_Drax — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:58:31 -0000

Brilliant post - very helpful; thanks!

[must. resist. jokes. about. lube. and. tools]

Re: Hobby: Green Stuff 101

Lunar_Camel — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:40:35 -0000

Don't use saliva! May work well but the packaging doesn't say "May cause cancer" for nothing. Also, wash your hands after you use green stuff.

Re: Hobby: Green Stuff 101

Rahveel — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:14:32 -0000

I like the eraser idea, as ive been hunting for some clay shapers but no local stores cary any.

does anyone know of a company that sells clay shapers online? (prefferably in the US)

Re: Hobby: Green Stuff 101

fenris — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:04:17 -0000

Wax paper will also work. (you can also use wax paper on top of a wet paper towel to help your paint stay wet longer.

Re: Hobby: Green Stuff 101

Madjob — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 11:55:28 -0000

There's a step I often see neglected in some green stuff tutorials - letting the mixed green stuff sit.

Even with a lubricant, green stuff will often stick to the wrong thing or tear while you're working with it. It can be pretty frustrating, especially for something that needs to keep it's shape like a cloak or the basic shape of a hat. The best thing to do after mixing the green stuff would be to let it sit for 15-20 minutes. It will become slightly firmer, less susceptible to tearing, but still stick well and is still shapeable.

This may not always be necessary for simple-gap filling with no extra sculpting needed, but try it out and see if it makes things any easier for you.

Re: Hobby: Green Stuff 101

Madjob — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 11:48:40 -0000

A ziploc bag works. Put some of the lubricant on it so that the green stuff doesn't stick as easily and once you're done rolling always test it to see that it really isn't stuck.

Re: Hobby: Green Stuff 101

parrot — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 11:01:50 -0000

If you're in Austin, see if they have a Pearl Arts and Crafts, or an Utrecht art supply place. They're in the more specialized stores than Michaels.

Re: Hobby: Green Stuff 101

Ragan010 — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 10:57:52 -0000

Thank you very much Psyberwolfe, much like a few other commentors here, I have always had a hard time using green stuff.