With the eldar heat lances is the +2 to the vehicle damage chart roles in addition to the +1 from it being a D weapon and the +1 from it being a AP 1 weapon?
Awesome minidex!
Ranillon
· 1 year ago
All right! I've been looking forward to this. Great going guys -- and cool conversions (although I think I like my Knight Lancer conversion a bit better :-). This'll add a lot of spark to future games of Apoc. Thanks!
Ranillon
· 1 year ago
Okay, I take away my praise just a tiny bit -- I've been working on a Knight Lancer based on the original Epic models, namely the ones with long legs and a single weapon. But, you chose the slightly newer model with the weapon and the lance. Now my model doesn't fit at all. Are there plans to do a variant KL along the lines of the original models -- fast, single big weapon, and (maybe) small secondary weapon without lance ("Knight Lancer" in this case being just a name for a fast "scout mech" sort of unit, not the name for one of its weapons)?
Matthew_Rider
· 1 year ago
Hooray!
Im gonna have to see if youve changed the rules for the armegeddon lol
Bigdaddy
· 1 year ago
hi, very good Book. i'm happy to see more titan knight choice ! my household will be happy to go to fight ! and thank you bigred for include my picture of knight in your Lord of battle ! (very great honour for me) unfortunately I must sell one of my knights. you can see the ebay announcement here : http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&i... or try this to : http://minilien.fr/a0jdgn
BoLS YOUR THE BEST !
Forhekset
· 1 year ago
Wish I could afford that, it's a brilliant piece of work.
Sad to see that you have to let one go, if I had the cash Id jump in on that auction in a second. But heres hoping it goes to a good home!
baronvoncarson
· 1 year ago
Hurrah! Great work.
Savark
· 1 year ago
Wow great models, i especially like those two monsters to start the book of, nice touch
Also (off topic) do you guys always make mini-dex's from "actual" 40k history or make it up?
Medium Dave
· 1 year ago
Fantastic, I am definately considering knocking up a knight household and/or a digga mob. : )
faultie
· 1 year ago
Fantastic conversions and great minidex overall. Thanks a lot!
Yamagon
· 1 year ago
Holy hell! Iv been waiting for this, and its simply amazing.
I love the conversions.
I wish the Dominatrix was a little more unbelievably stronger, as its (according to some sources) the main battle leader, and destroying it almost defeats the entire planetary invasion... or at least... iv been told.
CoreyTamas
· 1 year ago
Not to be nit-picky (honest), but I think that's called a "PDF" file, not an "Adobe Acrobat File". Adobe would love to own the file format, but I'm afraid they don't. Not yet, anyhow. :)
Portable Document Format (PDF) is a file format created by Adobe Systems in 1993 for document exchange.
Forhekset
· 1 year ago
Great work, guys. I love how your layouts have come along, gives it a much more 'authentic' kind of feel.
Always love to see scratch built stuff.
Denzark
· 1 year ago
Amazing thanks guys
Desaster
· 1 year ago
Thanks a lot :D
qwertywraith
· 1 year ago
Great work so far, I'm going to need to read some more. What I was most looking forward to was the Slaaneshi knight.
A couple of nit picks: The Hell Knight of Slaanesh in Epic is equipped with a thermal lance, but no blastmasters. It only had bolters.
The range on the Blastmaster is incorrect for the single frequency shot.
The agile rule. Should the vehicle have the fleet special rule? Should the text for agile read that it can "run 2D6"? If it has the fleet rule it can then assault.
You could allow it to run 1D6 and still fire the blastmaster. This would be similar to the rules the Subjugator uses.
(and the picture is Opfor_Alpha's Hell Strider :P, you're not fooling me!)
TheInnerGeek
· 1 year ago
Great work on the pdf! My only tiny concern is with the Reaver Titan. The one from Forge World comes with some combination of Laser Blaster and Gatling Blaster... neither of these are choices in the Lords of Battle? Also, with the rules for Reaver Titans coming out at the end of this month, will these stats be changed to match what Forge World has, or left as is?
Bigred
· 1 year ago
I've purposely made both Reavers use variant designations from the ancient Adeptus Titanicus game to differentiate them from the more potent upcoming Forgeworld rules. So you can use the more potent and expensive new model and rules, or use these rules and your armorcast models to represent the rarer and cheaper "obsolete" Reavers
TheInnerGeek
· 1 year ago
That makes complete sense. Thanks for the response!
Flashman
· 3 months ago
Nice work.
I've got a friend who's gonna use the Deathstrike in an Apoc game but it's not clear how it fires from the Datasheet. Logically it's gonna fire like a Deathstrike missile but I suspect he thinks it fires like ordinary ordnance. Is there an FAQ on this?
Agamemnon
· 1 year ago
I am consistently amazed by your PDF releases. Incidentally, whose is that gorgeous Leviathan? I'm wondering what they used for the wheels, tracks and suspension.
Ranillon
· 1 year ago
The Leviathan is amazing -- a true piece of art.
Borin
· 1 year ago
I like the book, the fluff and conversion are awesome. But rules wise seem that the imperium specially titans get the worst rules of all. Too expensive and not as much killing capabilities specially vs gargantuan creatures that are overpowered thanks to ST D weapons only causing them 1 wounds.
Giving titan holofields to the Dominatrix it's like giving them a 4+ inv save as gargantuans are not affected by crew shaken and the power can not be canceled ..... .
Gade
· 1 year ago
There´s a typo in there...
On one of the big IG tanks it says 3 plasma cannons on the side, but the profile dossnt have heavy 1, BLAST...
Otherwise, nice...
Diet_evil
· 1 year ago
What are the legs on the hell knight from? Inquiering kit bashers want to know.
opfor
· 1 year ago
I'm almost ashamed to admit, they are the legs from He-man's robot horse. I would have used something else, but they were free and had a certain '80's cartoon charm.
Diet_evil
· 1 year ago
Thats brilliant...
qwertywraith
· 1 year ago
The legs look good, and are very slaaneshi. I've commented on your flickr page. I'd like to know more about the construction as I'm interested in building some super heavies in the future. I like the style so I'd love to know about the rest of the components.
Fist
· 1 year ago
Very impressive. I just spent the last hour or so reading over the latest edition of the Lords of Battle. As usual your quality of product is outstanding. I can't wait to break out some of the old models and put them to use again.
Thanks for all that you do for the 40k community. Keep it up, we are paying attention.
Hydra
· 1 year ago
What a great great book!
It really pictures the scent of the ancient :D Some awesome conversions in there too... agreat honour to stand with my dom next to them! And, btw, thank you very very much to include it in this great piece!
Veahirin
· 1 year ago
Great book!!! I love the models and comversions included. The pic of the Imperial guard with all the armour and the Capitol imperialis is just awsome. I was wondering though, if you could post a quick summary of some of the smaller changes that you have made.
All in all great book.
TemplarsMonochromata
· 1 year ago
Wow, this caught me out of the blue, and pretty much right when I needed it. I heart you guys :) (If anyone was wondering why, its actually darned tricky to find pictures and points costs and weaponry of knight class titans! These are the bad boys I see defending my templars loyalist home worlds from incursions, and the toy that I want to try scratch building for my army and apocalypse missions... and now I have a formation for them! You guys rule! Thanks Bell!)
if I was going to suggest an addendum to this document, that truly awesome grey knight titan conversion that I found whilst web-searching knight-titans deserves a page, though perhaps permission from its makers might be in order... (one of the most awesome titan conversions ever...its crushing a bloodthirster underfoot!)
Strongbad
· 1 year ago
thanks guys! you just inspired me to make my own leviathan. switching to ultra-geek mode.
Pete B
· 1 year ago
Since when is the Tempest a different vehicle than the Scorpion?! GW itself says that the Tempest is the another Imperial name for the Scorpion. Are you going to have "new" datasheets for the Death Stalker, Doom Weaver and Warp Hunter now?
Chumbalaya
· 1 year ago
Great stuff, I need to find the propa gubbinz to start making more Stompas!
Mikey
· 1 year ago
Man, I'd really love to see you guys do an Iron Snakes mini codex. Any chance?
Mitey Heroes
· 1 year ago
Great stuff, wonderfully inspiring book!
One slight editorial niggle: in the description of the Capitol Imperialis (p.7) it accidentally calls it a Leviathan at one point "Leviathans do not have the pure offensive power..."
Faolain
· 1 year ago
You guys have outdone yourselves again. Great work!
mplonski
· 1 year ago
As usual the production values are top-notch. I'm a little disappointed that so much of the flavor text for similar units was just cut-n-pasted from one to another, but it's not too bad. The Eldar "Tempest" is just the Imperial designation for the tank. It does have vastly different weapons from the Scorpion and should have a different data sheet even if the Eldar themselves consider them to be the same basic vehicle. An Eldar Scorpion is to an IG Shadowsword as a Tempest is to a Baneblade, in my opinion. It does appear that some of the point values were not re-balanced with v5. When deciding whether to take a Psychic Lance on my Warlock or a Distortion Cannon, there is zero reason to take the Lance and it should be the other way around. As mentioned above, it would have been nice to see a lot more options on these units since they're all scratch-built or unofficial anyway. Thanks for the great book!
davidhasselhoss
· 1 year ago
Great job. As a fan returning from a 13 year hiatus from the game this brings back a lot of memories from days gone by(AT and SM). Maybe you will come up with Dark Future 40k minidex, small bands of mechanicus fighting it out on the grim highways of macharius for just a drop of gasoline and street cred.
Damian Starsong
· 1 year ago
I must say, this book is definatly inspiring me to add two or three more knights to my shelf, and to finally maybe get a coat of paint on the one I do have! (and off topic, but I would like to see the knight crushing the bloodthirster...I dont think I have before...
Also, who made the green dominatrix in the minidex? It is fething sweet! Was it sculpted or converted from a toy or something similar? Absolutely brilliant!
Accommodator
· 1 year ago
That Dominatrix is based off a FW Scythed Hierodule, and was converted by Hydra. It won a Bronze Golden Demon at Games Day Toronto in 2007. It was the first of three such conversions that I know of....
Robert Scheel
· 1 year ago
Imagine my surprise as I was going through this new book (and very nicely done btw) and I come across a pic of my Knight Paladin. Very nicely done guys.
Robert Scheel
Lord Velard
· 1 year ago
Very good book. I already start translating it on russian to use on ours Apoc tournaments. Do you plan to "rerelease" Horys Hearesy Compaing book with new edition and new Sapce marines?
Savark
· 1 year ago
quick Q. what do you use to make your mini-dexs?
Torog
· 1 year ago
Awesome book! I love it, I must also write that models of Leviathan, Capitol, Deathstrike, Stalion, Phantom, Warlock, Hellknight, Harbinger (by the way, it is 40k model or epic scaled for Aeronautica?) and Dominatrix are simply GORGEOUS!:D Looking forward for more BIG stuff added (when looking into Epic: Decimators? Death Wheels? Feral Titans? Swifdeath Fighters? Ragnarok Heavy Tank? Steam Gargant? Squig Catapults? Tormentor Titan? Perditor? ....)
Dakota
· 1 year ago
hey, what ever happened to that adeptus arbite list you guys planned? just curious.
Ben/Chantilly
· 10 months ago
Gents,
Was going back over this WONDERFUL play aid for reference in creating my own datasheet and found one glaring error.
On the Leviathan and Capitol Imperialis. Your transport capacity matrix's are incorrect!
The Apoc rule book (pg 198) lists the transport size in superheavies for all model sizes (except full sized tanks, which regular apoc does not allow).
Apoc lists cavalry as 3 models, you list as 2. Apoc lists walkers as 10 models, you list as 5.
Suggest you ammend the size lists for these beasties to match the apoc rules, or simply refererence pg 198 in the Apoc rules - and then adjust the size for acrrying tanks upwards to 20 models (if walkers are 10 in apoc, and in your rules, tanks took up twice the space of walkers).
Does anyone know what '+1 on the Critical table' means (Knight Paladin Power Lance)? There is no critical table in both the 5th Edition Rulebook, nor in the Apocalypse Rulebook. There is the Damage Table, Super Heavy Dmg Table, and Catastrophic Dmg Table.
All Comments
Awesome minidex!
Im gonna have to see if youve changed the rules for the armegeddon lol
very good Book.
i'm happy to see more titan knight choice ! my household will be happy to go to fight !
and thank you bigred for include my picture of knight in your Lord of battle ! (very great honour for me)
unfortunately I must sell one of my knights. you can see the ebay announcement here : http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&i...
or try this to : http://minilien.fr/a0jdgn
BoLS YOUR THE BEST !
Sad to see that you have to let one go, if I had the cash Id jump in on that auction in a second. But heres hoping it goes to a good home!
Also (off topic) do you guys always make mini-dex's from "actual" 40k history or make it up?
: )
Iv been waiting for this, and its simply amazing.
I love the conversions.
I wish the Dominatrix was a little more unbelievably stronger, as its (according to some sources) the main battle leader, and destroying it almost defeats the entire planetary invasion... or at least... iv been told.
Portable Document Format (PDF) is a file format created by Adobe Systems in 1993 for document exchange.
Always love to see scratch built stuff.
A couple of nit picks: The Hell Knight of Slaanesh in Epic is equipped with a thermal lance, but no blastmasters. It only had bolters.
The range on the Blastmaster is incorrect for the single frequency shot.
The agile rule. Should the vehicle have the fleet special rule? Should the text for agile read that it can "run 2D6"? If it has the fleet rule it can then assault.
You could allow it to run 1D6 and still fire the blastmaster. This would be similar to the rules the Subjugator uses.
(and the picture is Opfor_Alpha's Hell Strider :P, you're not fooling me!)
I've got a friend who's gonna use the Deathstrike in an Apoc game but it's not clear how it fires from the Datasheet. Logically it's gonna fire like a Deathstrike missile but I suspect he thinks it fires like ordinary ordnance. Is there an FAQ on this?
But rules wise seem that the imperium specially titans get the worst rules of all. Too expensive and not as much killing capabilities specially vs gargantuan creatures that are overpowered thanks to ST D weapons only causing them 1 wounds.
Giving titan holofields to the Dominatrix it's like giving them a 4+ inv save as gargantuans are not affected by crew shaken and the power can not be canceled ..... .
On one of the big IG tanks it says 3 plasma cannons on the side, but the profile dossnt have heavy 1, BLAST...
Otherwise, nice...
Thanks for all that you do for the 40k community. Keep it up, we are paying attention.
It really pictures the scent of the ancient :D
Some awesome conversions in there too... agreat honour to stand with my dom next to them!
And, btw, thank you very very much to include it in this great piece!
All in all great book.
(If anyone was wondering why, its actually darned tricky to find pictures and points costs and weaponry of knight class titans! These are the bad boys I see defending my templars loyalist home worlds from incursions, and the toy that I want to try scratch building for my army and apocalypse missions...
and now I have a formation for them! You guys rule! Thanks Bell!)
if I was going to suggest an addendum to this document, that truly awesome
grey knight titan conversion that I found whilst web-searching knight-titans deserves a page, though perhaps permission from its makers might be in order...
(one of the most awesome titan conversions ever...its crushing a bloodthirster underfoot!)
One slight editorial niggle: in the description of the Capitol Imperialis (p.7) it accidentally calls it a Leviathan at one point "Leviathans do not have the pure offensive power..."
The Eldar "Tempest" is just the Imperial designation for the tank. It does have vastly different weapons from the Scorpion and should have a different data sheet even if the Eldar themselves consider them to be the same basic vehicle. An Eldar Scorpion is to an IG Shadowsword as a Tempest is to a Baneblade, in my opinion.
It does appear that some of the point values were not re-balanced with v5. When deciding whether to take a Psychic Lance on my Warlock or a Distortion Cannon, there is zero reason to take the Lance and it should be the other way around.
As mentioned above, it would have been nice to see a lot more options on these units since they're all scratch-built or unofficial anyway.
Thanks for the great book!
Also, who made the green dominatrix in the minidex? It is fething sweet! Was it sculpted or converted from a toy or something similar? Absolutely brilliant!
Robert Scheel
Do you plan to "rerelease" Horys Hearesy Compaing book with new edition and new Sapce marines?
what do you use to make your mini-dexs?
Was going back over this WONDERFUL play aid for reference in creating my own datasheet and found one glaring error.
On the Leviathan and Capitol Imperialis. Your transport capacity matrix's are incorrect!
The Apoc rule book (pg 198) lists the transport size in superheavies for all model sizes (except full sized tanks, which regular apoc does not allow).
Apoc lists cavalry as 3 models, you list as 2. Apoc lists walkers as 10 models, you list as 5.
Suggest you ammend the size lists for these beasties to match the apoc rules, or simply refererence pg 198 in the Apoc rules - and then adjust the size for acrrying tanks upwards to 20 models (if walkers are 10 in apoc, and in your rules, tanks took up twice the space of walkers).
Just some food for thought.
Ben
http://www.majhost.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=22...
Still needs some work, I guess.