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As for the baneblade variants i don't see why the would make anything other than the new Stormlord in plastic as FW recently remade the variants into the same pattern as GW's Baneblade.
The Valkyrie should come out with the new IG codex i think because what other models are they going to release with it other than plastic stormies and a new Leman Russ!
I'm seriously thinking about a horde army (I currently play SM, and would like to try something different), and although I'm keen on getting some bugs happening, a new IG book might tip the balance in their favour...
But seriously, this is some of the best news I have heared since the announcement of the coming of 5th ed. IG have needed an update, as they were released in 3rd and still have rules that were made obsolete by 4th ed, let alone 5th. I can only hope that the book will live up t the legacy of the I.G.
:)
=p
BUT I love to build the tank kits! And a Stompa connservion based on an GW model would be DAKKA DAKKA!
Of course, what I'd really like is a plastic version of Aeronautica Imperialis. And a new Battlefleet Gothic, optionally with plastic Cobras for Honorverse levels of torpedo spam, and plastic ships for the non-Imperial/Chaos fleets.
And a pony.
I imagine that GW will try to cram all 3 Baneblade variants on to a single new sprue rather then have three new kits on the shelves.
The stompa is what I'm most looking forward to, even though I don't really play much and haven't touched apocalypse I'd love to just build it and kustomise it to the nth degree.
Valk could be fun too, might turn it into a 3 wheeled battlewagon like those beach sailing buggie things.
Do Want!
Not as much as I want that new 5th edition IG Codex though, it's about time the IG gets some love :)
I have no real interest in a thunderhawk, as I think its a fairly ugly design and will likely be a very expensive model, and I don't play orks so I'm not bothered either way about a Stompa, but I'm sure it will be a popular kit.
That could make my much-dreamed-about Elysian detachment semi-affordable!
Personally, I think it's much more Orky seeing the myriad of scratch-built Stompas that are around rather than dozens the same. Just seems the fit the inspired mech background a lot more. Bolt summof 'ose on derr rather than attach component A to point B
As for the Baneblade Variants, leave them be. The BB kit is great and FW make the variants for a modest additional fee (for FW) plus until I see some Plasma Blastgun toting plastic, I'll give it a miss.
Now, the Thunderhawk. It's probably never going to happen, but if it did...wow!
I just wouldn't be able to stop myself, and I barely ever play Apoc (note: not through lack of wanting to).
Onto the plastic variants, well, what are GW and forgeworld up to? I though forgeworld had a release run for conversion kits for the baneblade. I would go so far as to say that the information is in fact wrong, and these rumours are a result of people misinterpreting the facts...
Also, onto the fliers. After the baneblade release, the valkerie is vaguely believable, and would be cool (though when considering what they would actually transport, it becomes less cool). However, I would like now to stamp my big fat foot down on any Thunderhawk rumers, they are just daft, and the result of the fevered imaginations of furiously {@^&!^£ boys, and adults who should know better.
Anyway, back to the topic, yes I love apocolypse, I use the rules in both 3000pt +- battles, they make the game fun again. Do I think more huge, and mainly unusable models whould be released... errm no, and no more sad bags with space marine symbols on either, make something the adults aren ashamed to carry around.
just wait a few years for it... there are more things that need immediate attention than a single $300-$400 model... like the SW, IG, DE, Necron, Inquisition codexes...
this is what I have been told at my store and it makes sense - release a new codex and minis range for that codex versus release a very expensive model for a single army.
The rest of my group regularly plays Apocalypse and Forgeworld models are used for those exclsuively.
Any whispering about that, FlyLords? Maybe a second wave Guard release?
Oh and by the way the plastic valkyrie is deffinatly on the way , I bought a forge world one at games day last week , so as per my normal luck , they are sure to be cheap and plentyfull by the start of the year. DOH!
How many ork players are there? Will they buy a $100 model? It's SUPER easy to convert / make a great build. It does not make sense.
I'd love to see all plastic Shadowswords, etc. in spite of already owning some of the Forge World hybrid kits. I'd buy another Shadowsword, this time for my Chaos army , if it was all plastic and cheaper than the FW kit.
There are also rumors of a plastic Stormlord since those CADS of it floated around at Games Day events this year right around the time Apocalypse Reload was released. I hope that turns out to be true, because I'd like to have a second Stormlord for my Imperial forces without having to do this again: http://z11.invisionfree.com/Work_In_Progress/in...
It was fun scratch converting, but quite labor intensive and time-consuming.
Oh, and as for a Thunderhawk plastic kit, I'd buy at least three! One for my Dark Angels, one for my about to be new self made Codex Marine chapter and at least one for my massive Chaos Marine legion.
The baneblade variants, on the other hand, are a very welcome sight.
Currently, there is no chance of me paying 85 GBP for a shadowsword; that's just too expensive. In CAD$, that's about 165$. The Baneblade is 95$CAD, give me a 25$ kit for a shadowsword for a total cost of about 120$. Now you're talking.
For Orks a Battlewagon is confirmed, so I somewhat doubt a stompa will be out as well, but it would be awesome.
This is being openly told to customers at GW stores and by GW management (at least here in Canada).
Again Caveat Emptor, but it seems to make sense to me.
Also for the plastic thunderhawk...can we be realistic? Sure the rumours are persisitent, but GW is very into making money, and the thunderhawk would likely not do that for them. The only reason we got a plastic Baneblade is because Imperials (marines and guard) Chaos, and Orks could use it.
A thunderhawk will be 2-3 times the price (or more) than a Baneblade, and only be useable to Space Marine players. COnsidering the extremely high cost of making the plastic moulds for mass production it just doesn't make sense that GW would make this kit.
Hope I am very wrong, but severely doubtful.
If GW is concerned about financial success of large models, all they should do is check eBay. Old Armorcast titans, tanks, wagons, Chaos and Nids are going for near-Forgeworld prices. While I'm sure it's partly sentimental value, I think most of it is just wanting to use them in Apoc games.
As much of an opponent as I am of the plastic terrain boards, I'm a supporter of big Ork kits like Stompas and Battlewagons, as long as it doesn't invalidate the use of scratch-builds at tournaments. More big Imperial kits sound okay, but I think GW would find more success with plastic frames of metal-line models like Sisters or Gray Knights.
A better option for Ork vehicles might be to release a simple plastic "kustomization" frame with all the weapon options found on Stompas and Battlewagons. Just a frame of big shootas, rokkit launchers, skorchas, a kannon, etc.
I am personally thinking they are rolling Tank Companies, DH, and WH back into a complete Imperial list. I know that will make many players unhappy, but it would make for a fairly diversified army. Plus, the miniature marketing with this idea is optimal. Introduce an updated box set of basic troops which can be used by people who already have, at current time, 4 separate army lists.
I dont have any inside info on it or anything, it just sort of makes sense.
Anyone actually hear anything lately?
But with the model-release-with-codex logic, there's no way GW will release new IG models/stormtroopers AND new Sisters AND new Grey Knights at the same time. Which is unfortunate for WH and DH players.
Simple answer... they can not make it.
They do not habe the technology to make plastic kits that big. The baneblade was at the limit.
I understand that the thunderhawk is a complicated miniature with a moderately high level of detail. I also remember putting together a necron monolith, which is one of the larger plastic kits available at the moment. I know the detail involved in the current edition land raider, which I know is not quite as large as a thunderhawk. I can see the planning and creation of such a miniature as a daunting task.
On the other hand... I have completed plastic kits of aircraft carriers, destroyers, and even a replica of the starship enterprise all of which were not only highly detailed, but, unquestionably more complex, and much less expensive.
Now, dont think i am knocking GW. i have been spending much more on their products than i should for over 15 years and am not really planning to stop. I have no interest in buying a thunderhawk or any other "large" models. They are making much more profit selling resin "large" miniatures than they could selling them in plastics. I just think half assed excuses should stop being accepted as truth.
Jeez, i am having a slow day at work!
The only thing I can think of is this:
How thick is the plastic that the model ships are made of, or your enterprise. Now think about the thickness of plastic used in the banblade or monolith, or even the ruins.
That could be causing the problems.
-eddie
I don't use "Forgeworld" in my games, but that's because I don't like shelling out a kidney for a miniature. I WILL use plastic models of the same stuff though. I already own a Baneblade, and plan on getting several Drop Pods. I would buy a fleet of Valkyries.
I can't explain how much I want plastic thunderbolts.
most of what forgeworld makes is for a small percentage of gamers. GW relies on mass quantity to justify making a model. If GW tried to make everything that forgeworld did in plastic, it would go bankrupt.
-eddie
Love to see all of them made.
A storm lord would be awesome for my forces to have as well. :)
My big question is, what'll be dropping IN FRONT of the new I.G. codex? Necrons is the obvious answer, but we're still a long way out from the end of the year. We're in the middle of Marines now, with Chaos Mortals only a little bit away, and with the waning support for LoTR recently (which is sad as I'm one of about six people on earth who genuinely likes the game), one wonders what'll be the BIG THING for the end of year holidays...
Hopefully not just the silly plastic terrain again. Haven't they learned that no-one really cares about terrain (not to say at all, but compared to a new army, meh). The GIANT flaw with those game boards is having the hills built in, but now I'm straying WAY off-topic.
Regardless, it's time to start painting those other platoons I've got collecting dust in my closet...
however, the new year may start with some SW goodness... i wud prolly be a very happy camper if it did come out around christmas!
I don't play in Apocalypse games, mostly because of the time required for such a game - I can't ever seem to free up a chunk of daylight large enough.
I'm interested in some of the Baneblade variants, but only from a modeling point of view. I've played with and against a Baneblade and Hellhammer in some non-Apocalypse games. It's an interesting battle once or twice, but not really appropriate for regular play.
Always a pleasure to meet another Blackhorse trooper, by the way.
The Stormlord? I WANT I WANT I WANT I WANT I WANT I WANT I WANT I WANT!!!!!
and stormtroopers.
love love love
I try n get an apocalypse game going as often as i can. I have Apocalypse armies for Nids, Necrons and Dark Angels. Apocalypse also gives me the excuse to use the DA codex and field the thunderer cannon as an ally. I have a couple of Forgeworld models for each Army and enjoy using them (Shadowsword, Thunderbolt, Pylon and Hierodule), especially as my brother Scratch built two Reaver Titans (Shudder).
Any rumours of any plastic titans ????
Any rumours of any plastic titans ????
We the users don't need a garbage post daily to keep us sated. Some here seems to think we do, since we've had this nonsense, yesterdays too little too late AoBR review, and Sunday's useless (albeit cool looking) Greater Daemon post.
We will keep coming back to the site for all the awesomeness you offer us in things like the Tacticas, transfer sheets, army list variants, and of course the REALLY USEFUL NEWS.
Everyone has been making rumors of the plastic ST, IG great coats, and Valkyrie for some months now. What about the mystery third Russ variant? Not important enough? Look at this day's news and see that none of it is worthy.
Thank you for your time, Fly Lords.
Sincerely,
The Loyal Users
If the garbage posts are bothering you, there is a easy solution. Cut back on the visits to once every week or maybe every second week. Hopefully there will be something worthy of your attention then. Unfortunately, as mighty as the Fly Lords are they can't hasten the pace of which GW or FW works and therefore has to report on whatever has happened.
I personally find these small tidbits of rumours entertaining and I'm happy I don't have to scourge Warseer to read them.
/Happy User
You're not talking for everybody here.
I personally don't mind updates even if their maybe a bit unnecessary. I just want something fun to read every morning and the Fly Lords provide.
Sincerely,
The Content User
your speaking for me in this post, but give the FlyLords some time to pull their game back, and then we can complain :>
Loyal User.
Rift Knight
My main recomendation, is that we want to see Brassscorpin's collections. We know that Mkerr, and Bigred have huge armies, and that Jwolf loves his Tallarn IG, but what about the other fly lords, especially BrassScorpion.
I personally love seeing new lists/ armies, and if anyone wants to donate them, please do!
What I would say to the OP is this...
If you want to make a statement of this nature then stand up and be counted...step into the light and show yourself rather than skulking in the shadows of 'Anon'.
If you're gonna knock them then at least have the bottle to stand up and be counted. It's not a matter of being accountable, it's a matter of showing some backbone and some commitment in your opinions.
-eddie
you don't speak for all of us dude... speak for yourself...
the AoBR post is great cuz it informs people who are gonna get lots of those boxes and dont play Apoc that they CAN play Apoc with AoBR armies.. and a few additions...
the Greater Daemon post is interested... WHO doesnt want a plastic chaos DP??
and the current post? for heaven's sake it's a discussion board for people....
This site just doesnt provide hobby info... this site is also a discussion board for people to talk, share ideas and what not....
if you don't like the discussion board and just wanna be spoon-fed, then fine... but don't diss the people who work on this site and never again assume that YOU represent all of us...